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Cuke Podcast with Dennis 🔊 2022 | Podcast - RIP Dennis 🔊 2024
        
      From the Crestone Mt. ZC news.
      We would like to let you know of the passing of long-time   practitioner and Sangha member Dennis Marshall. Dennis died on November   26th, just two days before what would have been his 93rd birthday. His   time in the Sangha dates back to the early days of the San Francisco Zen   Center. He moved to Crestone in the early 90's, and since then had a   continuous presence at CMZC. He was a resident here for some time, and   then steadily continued to attend Sesshin and other events after   leaving. He was well known in the small Crestone community.
      On   the morning of November 30th, Baker Roshi led the Cremation Funeral   Service for him here in Crestone. Members of the Crestone community,   some of whom had known Dennis for years, and some who were new friends,   joined with the resident CMZC Sangha to remember him. We bow to Rei Un   Mitsu Zen.
      
      
      
      Interview made out of emails between
      
      
      Dennis Marshall and 
      DC
        
      IT all started with...
      
      From: Dennis Marshall
      Date: 03/28/05 10:45:49
      To:  
      dchad3(at)sonic(dot)net
      
      
      [add the number "3" after the dchad to get to DC directly. This avoids 
      spam]
      Subject:
      Hi David
      
      Had to resend this to your alternate email address.
      Hello from Crestone CO.
      I just ran across the Web page while doing www research to find a 
      Japanese publication, Ono and Hibino's Godaisan (Tokyo, 1942), for a 
      project I'm working on.
      Interesting to catch all the names from way back when (blasts from the 
      past).
      I have just read the Maggie Kress interview. Did I pick up a minor 
      error? It said something about added material 25 March 05. That's only 
      three days ago. Maybe it's correct, but top of same page referred to March 
      2004. Probably a typo.
      I see the Crestone Zen folk from time to time (both CMZC and 
      Steve/Angelique), but mostly socially. Steve Allen's group poured 
      concrete the day before yesterday for the foundation to their new temple.
      Busy now but I'll check the Web page from time to time. I'm traveling a 
      lot these days (in a couple of weeks to Maui, where my wife's daughter has 
      just given birth to twins; then over to UK, where I have two sons and four 
      grandchildren). But I'm here sometimes. Let me know if you're ever in 
      Crestone.
      I have also been reading the FK interview. Long time since I 
      saw F, but I visited her in Santa Fe with Jerome when Jerome was 
      visiting Crestone.
       
      I have been reading some of your sangha news. If you are in touch with 
      Claude and/or Della, please give them my best wishes. I also remember Del 
      Carson and ache to read of his having been neglected. For the sake of auld 
      lang syn.
      I remember a summer break concert at Tass. when he composed/sang a song 
      "Oh, What Does a Fairy Do When He's Forty?" (or maybe it was Fifty). I 
      don't think I was the only one with wet eyes.
       
      Eric Arnow is in his fifties? I forget there is such an age gap between 
      us. I'm now 73 (I think). Next year I'm planning on a three-month 
      cross-country car trek across China. I'm indeed fortunate to enjoy such 
      good health.
       
      Best,
       
      Dennis Marshall
      
      
       
      Dennis is 3rd from left at Tassajara long ago.
From: David
  Date: 03/29/05 13:06:18
    To: Dennis Marshall
      Subject: Re: Fw: Hi David
      Fantastic to hear from you.
      I remember sending Jerome a postcard from Jerome somewhere - maybe 
      Colorado - decades ago. I’d like to post your email on cuke.com if it’s 
      okay. What year did you come to Zen Center? Trying to remember how far 
      back my memories with you go.
      You take care.
      David
      Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:31:05 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) 
      From: "Dennis Marshall"
      To: dchad 
      Subject: Re: Fw: Hi David
      Thanks for the reply, David. Sure, use the messages if you wish.
       
      I have been here in Crestone since 1991. I first moved here to practice 
      at Crestone Mtn. ZC. After leaving, I built my own house (Jerome was here 
      the week we poured the foundation).
      I was first at SFZC in late 1971, I think (my first sesshin was the one 
      during which Suzuki-roshi died). The three people who, later, sat tangaryo 
      with me at Tass. included Steve Allen--now my neighbor in Crestone; the 
      other names I forget).  I was still at Tass. for the pp when you were 
      head monk.
      As to shared memories--I remember your weeks of silence at Page 
      Street--corresponding in writing!
      Man--you really NEEDED to write those two books. [three]
      Now I'm engaged on one of my own. But perhaps more about that later.
      By chance, just this morning I had a phone call from Jerome, who keeps 
      sending me materials on China to spur me on in my project.
      Dennis
      Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:32:58 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) 
      From: "Dennis Marshall"
      To: dchad
      Subject: postscript
      
      It's snowing like crazy today, here in the Rockies. 
      D
      
      DC back to DM: 
      
      I was in Crestone a year ago 
      visiting with Paul Shippee, Steve, Dan and folks at Dick's place, saw 
      Rowena Pattee, met with Trungpa students to see video in progress on the 
      Karmapa I think. Next time I hope to see you.
      At 11:44 AM 4/1/2005 -0700, Dennis wrote:
      My memories of Suzuki-roshi are slight--but nonetheless treasured. He 
      was already ill when I first went to Page Street. 
       
      "Told" by my roommate who was probably fed up with my fecklessness that I 
      "ought" to visit Zen Center, I went to several Suzuki-roshi lectures. One 
      of them I think was his "you're seeing the world through pink spectacles" 
      lecture. I was very taken with him and by the refinement of the Page 
      Street environment. This must have been either Suzuki-roshi's final summer 
      or the one before that. Dick Baker was in Japan--to a new student, a 
      somewhat mythic "heir apparent" figure.
       
      After some months in a Page Street apartment I moved into the building. 
      Suzuki-roshi came to some meals, sitting at the "top" table, but the only 
      time I spoke with him was at a Q&A session in the dining room. I no longer 
      remember what it was I asked him about. He wasn't taking new students at 
      that time and we newcomers had to make do with Katagiri, Silas, et al. 
       
      I remember filing through Suzuki-roshi's room the sesshin morning he died. 
      I also remember the subsequent funeral. It's some measure of how 
      profoundly he affected people that, although many of us were relatively 
      new students who had had little personal contact with him, we were deeply 
      grief-stricken.
      DC: Wow. Your were faster than I had hoped for.
      A question. Where were you born and what happened up to the time you 
      came to ZC and what of it might have made you interested in Zen? - you 
      seem to be adept at abbreviated telling.
      d
      
      DM: 
      Re: for your archive
      
      Why? In brief: I was down and almost out, but was just beginning to 
      scratch my way back.
      I was born in England (1931). Had a career as a 
      journalist (Fleet Street, London) and then went to Jamaica to help midwife 
      Jamaican independence for the Colonial Office. Information officer--sort 
      of junior diplomatic corps. But the bureaucracy got to me. I jumped ship 
      (I was also at the end of a marriage: two young sons), became freelance 
      BBC correspondent, etc. etc., and hightailed it to California, arriving in 
      Haight-Ashbury the year before the hippie thing came into existence 
      (1964). Lived the beatnik existence in Haight for several years, had a 
      breakdown, was hospitalized, then halfway-housed (while in the halfway 
      house,  met Steve Weinstein, doing his selective service stint as a 
      counselor, I believe--though that isn't what took me to Zen Center). A 
      year or two later I found my way to Zen Center. A good job I did.
      The first time I heard of SFZC was some years earlier (probably 1968). 
      In the Haight, I ran the Weedpatch (at Haight and Masonic--a sort of head 
      shop, though didn't deal in drugs: international tobacco store; in those 
      days, we pretty much all smoked cigarettes). One day Tony Patchel came in 
      as a customer. Mentioned ZC. I was mildly curious, but it wasn't until 
      later, around 1970, with all the New Agey stuff  going on-- Gaskin; TM; 
      Yogi Bahjan; gurus galore--when I was shopping around and being turned off 
      by most-all groups, that I went to ZC. I didn't know my ass from my elbow, 
      or Buddhism from Hinduism. In fact, the entire "mysterious East" thing 
      scared me. But I liked what I saw in Suzuki-roshi.
      That, I think, must be more than enough. An inglorious past. But 
      perhaps not as untypical of Zen students at that time--or some of them--as 
      I sometimes think. I was of course a bit older than most new students.
      As to the abbreviated telling, as you put it: well, I was (perhaps 
      still am) a journalist. And for the past fifteen years I have copyedited 
      books  (for university presses: Johns Hopkins UP; Columbia UP; U of 
      Virginia P, etc.).
      And I always liked the Inkspots.
      
      DM in subsequent email mainly dealing with technical problems we were 
      having: 
      This seems to be my week for reconnecting with Zen friends. An hour 
      ago, Michael Sawyer phoned. It's been years. A month or more ago I left a 
      message at Green Gulch seeking his number (I may have a commission for 
      him: artwork.--if he's well enough to do it).
      
      DC: I liked the Inkspots too and saw them (with maybe no original 
      members) in the early seventies in Monterey with Charles and Caroline 
      Page, Bill Wenner, can't remember who else. "If I Didn't Care" is one of 
      the great classics in my book. They predate rhythm and blues wouldn't you 
      say? But at the same time they helped to bring it all in.
      You were born in some town in some place in England where the language, 
      as I remember it as you presented it to me, is unintelligible. Couldn't 
      write out that sentence about coal oil or something could you?
      DM:  
      
      Dialect 
      From near Bradford, in the West Riding of Yorkshire, as it was 
      called (now designated West Yorkshire: UK central government split 
      Yorkshire, way the biggest county, into three counties--I think it was 
      Maggie Thatcher did it--to cut us down to size. A Texan might understand 
      that).
      I have little idea how to spell it, but . . .
      We're dahn int' coyl oyl
      wheer muck clarts ont'winders.
      Thet's weer wi are--
      weer noh wun can fynd us.
      Yorkies--Tykes--are renowned for their bloodymindedness.
      But Yorkshire dialect is BBC English compared with that in Westmorland 
      (now redesignated Cumbria), where I went to boarding school. I was told 
      that local shepherds when counting their sheep recited
      Yant
      Tant
      Titheree
      Mitheree
      (five I forget, but I think single syllable)
      Airters
      Flairters
      Overs (short o)
      Dovers
      Dik
      A few years ago, when reading a history of the UK sheep industry (don't 
      laugh: it turns out to be fascinating) I discovered that variations on 
      this counting system, not too different from the above, have been found in 
      other parts of Britain. My guess is it is Celtic associated.
      Dennis
      
      DC: It warms the cockles of my heart to hear you say that so to speak 
      again. And thanks for the counting system. And for getting in touch.